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  &lt;p&gt;In article &lt;6av5ti$3c...@morgoth.sfu.ca&gt;, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;Larry Fiddick &lt;lfidd...@sfu.ca&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;suppose you wanted to prove the following argument using the method of truth &lt;br /&gt; &gt;tables: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;[(P v Q) -&gt; (Q v R)] &amp; (P -&gt; ~R) &lt;br /&gt; &gt;~Q &lt;br /&gt; &gt;------------------------------------ &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Therefore, ~P &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;is there anything intrinsically wrong with proceeding as follows: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;1) [(P v Q) -&gt; (Q v R)] &amp; (P -&gt; ~R) is defined as follows: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;P &#160; Q &#160; &#160; &#160; R &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160;[(P v Q) -&gt; (Q v R)] &amp; (P -&gt; ~R) &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;br /&gt; &gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------- &lt;br /&gt; &gt;T &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;F &#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;br /&gt; &gt;T &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;T &#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;br /&gt; &gt;T &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;F &lt;br /&gt; &gt;T &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;F &lt;br /&gt; &gt;F &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;F &lt;br /&gt; &gt;F &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;T &lt;br /&gt; &gt;F &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;T &lt;br /&gt; &gt;F &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;T &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;(ok, in order for things to fit, let&#039;s call the formula &#039;Z&#039;) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;2) the truth table for the argument is: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;P &#160; Q &#160; &#160; &#160; R &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160;~Q &#160; &#160; &#160;Z &#160; &#160; &#160; ~P &lt;br /&gt; &gt;--------------------------------------------------------- &lt;br /&gt; &gt;T &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160;F &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;F &lt;br /&gt; &gt;T &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160;T &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;F &lt;br /&gt; &gt;T &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160;F &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;F &lt;br /&gt; &gt;T &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160;F &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;F &lt;br /&gt; &gt;F &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160;F &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;T &lt;br /&gt; &gt;F &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160;T &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;T &lt;br /&gt; &gt;F &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160;T &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;T &lt;br /&gt; &gt;F &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160; F &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160; T &#160; &#160; &#160;T &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;T &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;3) an inspection of the truth table shows that there are no instances in &lt;br /&gt; &gt;which ~Q and Z are true, and ~P is false, therefore the argument is valid. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Right. &#160;Every t.a. that satisfies {~Q, Z} also satisfies ~P; &lt;br /&gt; that is, &#160;{~Q, Z} &#124;= ~P. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;So, in other words, does the method of truth tables permit one in principle to &lt;br /&gt; &gt;take the truth table definition of any complex formula, e.g. Z, as given, and &lt;br /&gt; &gt;then plug it in to the truth table to look for counterexamples? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;Now if this is permitted, if one can take the truth-table definition of any &lt;br /&gt; &gt;logical sentence as given, would this amount to a purely semantic deduction &lt;br /&gt; &gt;procedure? Suppose, instead, that one decomposed Z into its constituents in &lt;br /&gt; &gt;order to make the inference more transparent, would this decomposition be &lt;br /&gt; &gt;considered syntactic? (even though the search conducted after decomposing the &lt;br /&gt; &gt;sentence might again be semantic). I&#039;d like to know because I&#039;m trying to &lt;br /&gt; &gt;figure out the difference between semantic and syntactic methods, and whether &lt;br /&gt; &gt;the assumption that a sentence has a combinatorial syntax and semantics &lt;br /&gt; &gt;necessarily means that inference must at some point be syntactic, or the &lt;br /&gt; &gt;flipside, if inference was purely semantic would one have to assume that all &lt;br /&gt; &gt;logical sentences are atomic with each sentence defined independently. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Decomposition is part of the definition of semantics; you did in &lt;br /&gt; effect do that when you computed the truth table of Z. &#160;You could even employ &lt;br /&gt; syntactic transformations, like replacing &#160;P v Q &#160;by &#160;~Q -&gt; P, and still &lt;br /&gt; claim to be proceeding semantically, since you can justify them by semantics. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; The syntactic approach would be &#160;{~Q, Z} &#124;- ~P, or &#160;&#124;- (~Q &amp; Z) -&gt; ~P. &lt;br /&gt; This doesn&#039;t involve semantics; &quot;&#124;- S&quot; means there is a sequence of formulas &lt;br /&gt; a_0, a_1, ..., a_n &#160;where a_n is S, and each a_i is either a logic axiom or &lt;br /&gt; arises via M.P. (i.e. there are &#160;j, k &#160;&lt; i &#160;such that &#160;a_j &#160;is &#160;&quot;a_k -&gt; a_i&quot;). &lt;br /&gt; Logic axioms are (Hilbert-Ackermann) &#160;(A v A) -&gt; A, &#160;A -&gt; (A v B), &#160;(A v B) -&gt; &lt;br /&gt; -&gt; (B v A), &#160;(A -&gt; B) -&gt;((C v A) -&gt; (C v B)), &#160; for arbitrary formulas A, B, C. &lt;br /&gt; Here, &#160;A -&gt; B &#160;is shorthand for &#160;~A v B &#160;(and &#160;A &amp; B &#160;is written ~(~A v ~B) ). &lt;br /&gt; There are many other ways to define &#160;&#124;-. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Of course the point is that &#160;&#124;- S &#160;iff &#160;&#124;= S. &#160; As &#160;&#124;- &#160;tends to be &lt;br /&gt; cumbersome, in practice one uses &#124;= &#160;(or a mix); &#160;but the two approaches &lt;br /&gt; are equivalent. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Ilias &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>Larry Fiddick &lt;lfidd&#8230;@sfu.ca&gt; wrote: <br /> &gt;suppose you wanted to prove the following argument using the method of truth <br /> &gt;tables: <br /> 
<p>&gt;[(P v Q) -&gt; (Q v R)] &amp; (P -&gt; ~R) <br /> &gt;~Q <br /> &gt;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; <br /> &gt;Therefore, ~P  </p>
<p>&gt;is there anything intrinsically wrong with proceeding as follows:  </p>
<p>&gt;1) [(P v Q) -&gt; (Q v R)] &amp; (P -&gt; ~R) is defined as follows:  </p>
<p>&gt;P &nbsp; Q &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; R &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;[(P v Q) -&gt; (Q v R)] &amp; (P -&gt; ~R) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br /> &gt;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- <br /> &gt;T &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br /> &gt;T &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br /> &gt;T &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;F <br /> &gt;T &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;F <br /> &gt;F &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;F <br /> &gt;F &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;T <br /> &gt;F &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;T <br /> &gt;F &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;T  </p>
<p>&gt;(ok, in order for things to fit, let&#8217;s call the formula &#8216;Z&#8217;)  </p>
<p>&gt;2) the truth table for the argument is:  </p>
<p>&gt;P &nbsp; Q &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; R &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;~Q &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Z &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ~P <br /> &gt;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; <br /> &gt;T &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;F <br /> &gt;T &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;F <br /> &gt;T &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;F <br /> &gt;T &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;F <br /> &gt;F &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;T <br /> &gt;F &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;T <br /> &gt;F &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;T <br /> &gt;F &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; F &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; || &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;T &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;T  </p>
<p>&gt;3) an inspection of the truth table shows that there are no instances in <br /> &gt;which ~Q and Z are true, and ~P is false, therefore the argument is valid. </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Right. &nbsp;Every t.a. that satisfies {~Q, Z} also satisfies ~P; <br /> that is, &nbsp;{~Q, Z} |= ~P.  </p>
<p>&gt;So, in other words, does the method of truth tables permit one in principle to <br /> &gt;take the truth table definition of any complex formula, e.g. Z, as given, and <br /> &gt;then plug it in to the truth table to look for counterexamples?  </p>
<p>&gt;Now if this is permitted, if one can take the truth-table definition of any <br /> &gt;logical sentence as given, would this amount to a purely semantic deduction <br /> &gt;procedure? Suppose, instead, that one decomposed Z into its constituents in <br /> &gt;order to make the inference more transparent, would this decomposition be <br /> &gt;considered syntactic? (even though the search conducted after decomposing the <br /> &gt;sentence might again be semantic). I&#8217;d like to know because I&#8217;m trying to <br /> &gt;figure out the difference between semantic and syntactic methods, and whether <br /> &gt;the assumption that a sentence has a combinatorial syntax and semantics <br /> &gt;necessarily means that inference must at some point be syntactic, or the <br /> &gt;flipside, if inference was purely semantic would one have to assume that all <br /> &gt;logical sentences are atomic with each sentence defined independently. </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Decomposition is part of the definition of semantics; you did in <br /> effect do that when you computed the truth table of Z. &nbsp;You could even employ <br /> syntactic transformations, like replacing &nbsp;P v Q &nbsp;by &nbsp;~Q -&gt; P, and still <br /> claim to be proceeding semantically, since you can justify them by semantics.  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; The syntactic approach would be &nbsp;{~Q, Z} |- ~P, or &nbsp;|- (~Q &amp; Z) -&gt; ~P. <br /> This doesn&#8217;t involve semantics; &quot;|- S&quot; means there is a sequence of formulas <br /> a_0, a_1, &#8230;, a_n &nbsp;where a_n is S, and each a_i is either a logic axiom or <br /> arises via M.P. (i.e. there are &nbsp;j, k &nbsp;&lt; i &nbsp;such that &nbsp;a_j &nbsp;is &nbsp;&quot;a_k -&gt; a_i&quot;). <br /> Logic axioms are (Hilbert-Ackermann) &nbsp;(A v A) -&gt; A, &nbsp;A -&gt; (A v B), &nbsp;(A v B) -&gt; <br /> -&gt; (B v A), &nbsp;(A -&gt; B) -&gt;((C v A) -&gt; (C v B)), &nbsp; for arbitrary formulas A, B, C. <br /> Here, &nbsp;A -&gt; B &nbsp;is shorthand for &nbsp;~A v B &nbsp;(and &nbsp;A &amp; B &nbsp;is written ~(~A v ~B) ). <br /> There are many other ways to define &nbsp;|-.  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Of course the point is that &nbsp;|- S &nbsp;iff &nbsp;|= S. &nbsp; As &nbsp;|- &nbsp;tends to be <br /> cumbersome, in practice one uses |= &nbsp;(or a mix); &nbsp;but the two approaches <br /> are equivalent.  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Ilias </p>
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