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  In article &lt;89odhi$2m9...@quince.news.easynet.net&gt;, &quot;John&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&lt;j...@JapanGlobe.net&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;I cannot work out answers of the following test: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;Assume A={2,4,5,6} , B={2,6,4} and C={1,4,6} &lt;br /&gt; &gt;describe the following sets explicitly, listing their members inside curly &lt;br /&gt; &gt;brackets. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;I attempted replying on the right... &lt;br /&gt; &gt;u is for union, P for Power and n Intersection &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;1- {Ø,{Ø,Ø},{Ø},{{Ø}}} &#160; &#160;= {Ø,{Ø}} &lt;br /&gt; &gt;2- Ø u {Ø} &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;= {Ø,{Ø}} &lt;br /&gt; &gt;3- (A u C) - B &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;= {2,5} &lt;br /&gt; &gt;4- P Ø &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;= Ø &lt;br /&gt; &gt;5- P{Ø} &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; = {Ø,{Ø}} &lt;br /&gt; &gt;6- P{3,{3}} &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;? &lt;br /&gt; &gt;7- A n P A &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; = Ø &lt;br /&gt; &gt;8- {3,{3}} n P{3,{3}} &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; = {3,{3}} &lt;br /&gt; &gt;9- Ø x Ø &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;= {&lt;Ø,Ø&gt;} &lt;br /&gt; &gt;10- {Ø} x {Ø} &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; ={&lt;{Ø},{Ø}&gt;} &lt;br /&gt; &gt;11- {Ø}x Ø &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;={&lt;{Ø},Ø&gt;} &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;Thanks for correcting me. All explanations are wellcome. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Cheers. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;John &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&#160;I am assuming that 0 represents the empty set. &lt;br /&gt; 1- you left something out in your answer. &lt;br /&gt; 2- you put something extra in your answer &lt;br /&gt; 3- you put something in that shouldn&#039;t be and left out something that &lt;br /&gt; should be in. &lt;br /&gt; 4- you never have P S = S for any set S &lt;br /&gt; 5- &lt;br /&gt; 6- P S always contains as elements 0 and S and any proper subsets of S &lt;br /&gt; 7- &lt;br /&gt; 8- {3,{3}}is not an element of {3,{3}}, so cannot be in {3,{3}} n S &lt;br /&gt; 9- 0 x S = S x 0 = 0 for any S, it is still empty. &lt;br /&gt; 10- {&lt; 0,0 &gt;},since 0 is an element of each, but {0} is not &lt;br /&gt; 11- See 9. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; Virgil &lt;br /&gt; vm...@frii.com &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;89odhi$2m9&#8230;@quince.news.easynet.net&gt;, &quot;John&quot; <br /> 
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<p>&lt;j&#8230;@JapanGlobe.net&gt; wrote: <br /> &gt;I cannot work out answers of the following test: <br /> 
<p>&gt;Assume A={2,4,5,6} , B={2,6,4} and C={1,4,6} <br /> &gt;describe the following sets explicitly, listing their members inside curly <br /> &gt;brackets.  </p>
<p>&gt;I attempted replying on the right&#8230; <br /> &gt;u is for union, P for Power and n Intersection  </p>
<p>&gt;1- {Ø,{Ø,Ø},{Ø},{{Ø}}} &nbsp; &nbsp;= {Ø,{Ø}} <br /> &gt;2- Ø u {Ø} &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;= {Ø,{Ø}} <br /> &gt;3- (A u C) &#8211; B &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;= {2,5} <br /> &gt;4- P Ø &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;= Ø <br /> &gt;5- P{Ø} &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = {Ø,{Ø}} <br /> &gt;6- P{3,{3}} &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;? <br /> &gt;7- A n P A &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = Ø <br /> &gt;8- {3,{3}} n P{3,{3}} &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = {3,{3}} <br /> &gt;9- Ø x Ø &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;= {&lt;Ø,Ø&gt;} <br /> &gt;10- {Ø} x {Ø} &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ={&lt;{Ø},{Ø}&gt;} <br /> &gt;11- {Ø}x Ø &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;={&lt;{Ø},Ø&gt;}  </p>
<p>&gt;Thanks for correcting me. All explanations are wellcome. <br /> &gt;Cheers. <br /> &gt;John </p>
<p>&nbsp;I am assuming that 0 represents the empty set. <br /> 1- you left something out in your answer. <br /> 2- you put something extra in your answer <br /> 3- you put something in that shouldn&#8217;t be and left out something that <br /> should be in. <br /> 4- you never have P S = S for any set S <br /> 5- <br /> 6- P S always contains as elements 0 and S and any proper subsets of S <br /> 7- <br /> 8- {3,{3}}is not an element of {3,{3}}, so cannot be in {3,{3}} n S <br /> 9- 0 x S = S x 0 = 0 for any S, it is still empty. <br /> 10- {&lt; 0,0 &gt;},since 0 is an element of each, but {0} is not <br /> 11- See 9.  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> Virgil <br /> <a href="mailto:vm...@frii.com">vm&#8230;@frii.com</a> </p>
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